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  • Trump vs ObamaGate
    « on: May 22, 2020, 03:09:22 PM »
    Hi All,


    Long time no hear from me, I made this topic for a Western forum (Donald Trump's Fake news). Unfortunately they kicked me out, they were very frightened that I am using "Black Magic" with my coins and they didn't like my dry jokes.

    So my Destiny is somehow forcing me to be here again, God knows why.

    Yesterday Thursday 21 May 2020 around 3.15 pm Melbourne's local time. I toss the coins six times with the question:

    Will Donald Trump win the next election of the USA?
    Subject = Donald Trump born 14 June 1946, 10:54 AM

    Object = Election USA

    6th = Head Tail Tail
    5th = Tail Tail Tail (Active)
    4th = Head Head Tail
    3rd = Tail Tail Tail (Active)
    2nd = Head Head Head (Active)
    1st = Head Tail Tail



    My humble basic knowledge, need to learn more from seniors here.

    I only know that the Power-element Wood is destroying the Donald Earth-element Colleague. Colleague could mean competition, it could be a negative sign. Second negative sign is Subject line is a Chou-line which is Void.

    If the Wood-line Power is getting supported Water-element, very likely Donald Trump will lose the election.

    I would think this first round Donald Trump is losing.

    Second round Tossing will be the contest between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

    Joe Biden born 20 November 1942, 8:30 AM.

    Barack Obama born 4 August 1961, 19:24 pm


    To be continue....



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  • Re: Trump vs ObamaGate
    « Reply #1 on: May 22, 2020, 03:57:40 PM »
    Hi All,


    Today Friday 22 May 2020, around 17:15 pm Melbourne’s local time. I toss another hexagram with the question:

    Who will win the USA 2020 Election?

    Subject = Donald Trump born 14/06/1946, 10:54 AM
    Object = Joe Biden born 20/11/1942, 8:30 AM

    6th = Head Head Head (Active)
    5th = Head Head Head (Active)
    4th = Head Head Tail
    3rd = Head Head Tail
    2nd = Tail Tail Tail (Active)
    1st = Head Head Tail



    The previous hexagram was not easy, this time even harder.
    The interesting part of the hexagram was that Trump and Biden have almost the same Trigram. Both has Earth-element with 12 Deities “Official Amulet”, kind of Politicians.

    I split into two Trigrams, Upper Trigram (Donald Trump) vs Lower Trigram (Joe Biden). Both Snake-Fire lines are moving, but the Snake-Fire line at Joe Biden’s side is stronger. This is positive sign for Joe Biden. Grand Duke (President Title) a Wood-element is supporting Fire and Fire is supporting Joe Biden-Earth. It could mean the President Title or the Election-Win will come to Joe Biden.

    Negative signs for Donald Trump’s side is Money-line had been destroyed, it could mean he will lose lots of money through his campaign. His Power-line Fire is weakening through the Intelligence second line. Trump (Earth-element) needs Fire-element to survive, this is a negative sign for Trump. Grand Duke (President Title) in line 6 Donald Trump is fallen.

    This second round, again the position of Donald Trump is weakening. Maybe in November the tide will turn, God knows. It is now 2-0 for Joe Biden.

    Now we are going into the third round through my humble basic Bazi and ZWDS between Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
    Later on Trump vs ObamaGate.


    To be continue…


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  • Re: Trump vs ObamaGate
    « Reply #2 on: May 22, 2020, 08:20:29 PM »
    I think Trump will be re elected.

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  • Re: Trump vs ObamaGate
    « Reply #3 on: May 23, 2020, 04:08:55 PM »
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    I see "Quote" but it is proper to "Reply"

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    Re: Trump vs ObamaGate
    « Reply #6 on: May 23, 2020, 09:24:25 PM »
    The first hexagram (May 21), are those lines the starting hexagram? Or the final hexagram?

    Please post the starting hexagram, and the resultant (final) hexagram after the lines have change. Then we can do the analysis.

    I prefer to use the system translated (he did not write it) by Alex Chiu at supericing.com. Gmuli graciously shared a program he developed, that you may find useful.

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    Re: Trump vs ObamaGate
    « Reply #7 on: May 23, 2020, 10:19:48 PM »
    Sorry Disregard the earlier post. So it is 37 turning to 41.


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  • Re: Trump vs ObamaGate
    « Reply #8 on: May 24, 2020, 12:12:51 AM »
    Hi Saphora,

    Thanks for starting this thread.

    If he doesn't change the presidential election date, i think he will be elected because the Bing Xu months benefits him. 

    I wonder if something will happen to him in 2021 given the AP and LP are fu yin.

    Cheers, Bazi_fan

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  • Re: Trump vs ObamaGate
    « Reply #9 on: May 24, 2020, 07:15:32 AM »
    Hi All,


    Thanks everybody for joining this topic, everybody also have a try. I am using my old wear/tear calculator MS Excel Jurassic period. Please plot your own hexagram.

    I recommend everybody to toss the coins themselves. You must learn to feel the coins yourself and not what others are showing you. The method is very accurate, it depends on who is asking the question.

    Bazi-Fan is correct, his Bazi is mind-blowing, now we are discussing with my basic Bazi and ZWDS and I need Bazi-Fan to guide me.


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  • Re: Trump vs ObamaGate
    « Reply #10 on: May 24, 2020, 07:51:34 AM »
    Hi All,


    Thanks everybody for joining this topic, everybody also have a try. I am using my old wear/tear calculator MS Excel Jurassic period. Please plot your own hexagram.

    I recommend everybody to toss the coins themselves. You must learn to feel the coins yourself and not what others are showing you. The method is very accurate, it depends on who is asking the question.

    Bazi-Fan is correct, his Bazi is mind-blowing, now we are discussing with my basic Bazi and ZWDS and I need Bazi-Fan to guide me.


    Saphora.

    Hi Saphora,

    I'm just a newbie in reading bazi and besides, us presidential election has yet to occur so only time will tell.

    Cheers, Bazi_fan

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  • Re: Trump vs ObamaGate
    « Reply #11 on: May 24, 2020, 08:00:06 AM »
    Hi All,


    Be aware of my mistakes, plot your own bazi.



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  • Re: Trump vs ObamaGate
    « Reply #12 on: May 24, 2020, 09:00:14 AM »




    Hi All,

    Side interpretation: Face-reading to give second opinion. It has not to do with this topic, but if I am not doing it now I would lose my inspiration to decode further.
    Face-reading is a life-time experiences, not to do who will win the election.

    According to the Bazi of Donald Trump which I go deeper later on, 7 out of 8 pillars are supportive. It means HS is supporting EB. I called it as stable or supportive Qi-flow. This positive Energy flow will create stable emotion control. It is not easy to break him, even Fake news. This explains also why in his current 10 LP, Xin Chou he still makes positive out of it. That was his first 5 years (HS), the last 5 years of his current 10 LP is yet to be told. Earth-element is explosive exaggerated; this is the question is he makes it Great Again in year 2021 (Chou-year) which forms a silent Health-issue in his Qi-flow.

    You can see back in Donald Trump’s face. His skin is smooth and lively. Skin is according Traditional Chinese Medicine as a “Commander of Qi”. Overall his Face-energy is vibrant. Forget the make-up during the photo-sessions.

    In Joe Biden’s Face, he is 4 years older than Trump so it didn’t really count to compare them. I don’t feel the vibrant energy of Joe Biden’s Face. Secondly there are signs of “Blockage of Qi-flow in his Face”, also his lung and skin were under attack compared with the younger Trump.
    This third round through my own opinion through Face reading, I would think Donald Trump will win this round.

    So it is 2-1 for Joe Biden.

    The fourth round is between both Bazi-pillars.

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  • Re: Trump vs ObamaGate
    « Reply #13 on: May 24, 2020, 08:17:58 PM »
    Hi All,


    Let’s have a look between both Bazi Trump and Biden. Bazi is a life time analysis and not just a few years’ luck.
    I always look at the year-pillar first, this has the highest energy.

    I do have respect for both men, Trump was born in the year of Xu (Dog). Sometimes I compare him with the Pit Bull Terrier. The Protector of America, kills everybody who comes in between.

    Biden was born in the year of Wu (Horse), sometimes I compare him as the Ferrari Mustang. A free-Spirit guy who wants America to be happy like in the Flower-Power period: Make Love Not War.

    The three combo Xu, Wu and Yin the three Musketeers of America. The leadership spirit of America needs strong independent personality to lead the country IMO. So I would like to expect that the next President should be born in the 1950 to lead America in the near future. Maybe a Shere Khan in the future, so start looking for any senators who was born in year 1950 with a Direct Officer Star, I will definitely vote for that guy.

    Trump and Biden both have Direct Officer in their chart. Both have in Conception Aura (Community Status) Direct Officer. It could mean both were born as Leaders.
    If I could choose, I will form Trump and Biden as a Dream-Team for America, maybe Shere Khan (who he might be) as Chief Military, the ultimate Alpha-Team.

    Both charts are very competitive, but what interesting is their current 10 LP.
    10 LP Trump: Xin Chou (2014-2024)
    10 LP Biden: Ji Wei (2018-2028)
    Next year 2021: Xin Chou.

    A clash Xu/Chen/Wei/Chou with supportive Fire could be positive.

    In year 2021 Trump will face double Clash on his Day-pillar, I called as the “God-formation”. Energy-wise it is not a good time to have it. Even though it is related to himself only, but he will act as a magnet or a Black-hole which will drag everybody into darkness who are near him. In the worst case scenario, everybody he cares about will face tremendous time ahead. Maybe we will see more with ZWDS later on in details.

    Secondly, in year 2020 is also a Fan Yin year which not only shakes his Direct Officer pillar in the worst case scenario.

    In year 2021 Joe Biden will face also a tremendous challenge year ahead, also his Direct Officer will be also under attack.

    If you ask me, who will win this round, I would say: Joe Biden. His qi-flow in year 2020 and 2021 are much stable compared with Donald Trump.
    If Donald Trump doesn’t have that “GOD-formation”, G(Goat)-O(Ox)-D(Dog) and a Fan Yin 2020, I would think Donald Trump will dissipate that clash-energy easily.
    Even though Joe Biden will win this Bazi-round IMO, but I still concern about his ability to rule America in the next few years due to his hidden health-issue and his age. His Vital-Essence in his Face is decreasing.

    It is 3-1 for Joe Biden; next my Beginners knowledge ZWDS.

    To be continue…

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  • Re: Trump vs ObamaGate
    « Reply #14 on: May 24, 2020, 10:24:11 PM »
    Trump will lose  :-[

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