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  • What does this chart need for balance?
    « on: May 27, 2020, 04:00:35 PM »
    Hello everyone, can I have some assistance in analysing this chart of my brother. He’s born 1989, 8 July around 4pm in SG.

    My own interpretation is that he’s a strong earth DM with rooted water, metal and fire elements supporting. His chart seems to be lacking wood, is 30-50 luck pillars beneficial for him?

    He is starting a business, personality is usually more concerned about generating and keeping wealth.

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  • Re: What does this chart need for balance?
    « Reply #1 on: May 27, 2020, 04:36:14 PM »
    Hi Spartan,

    If he want to balance to create a nice pie chart, then use wood la  ;)

    But, if he wants to make money, then his favourable elements are metal and water. This is because he is strong and well supported with resources and can create wealth by using his brains.  8).
    30 to 40 very good. 40 to 50 so so.

    Cheers, Bazi_fan

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  • Re: What does this chart need for balance?
    « Reply #2 on: May 27, 2020, 08:34:26 PM »
    Thanks for the explanation Bazi_Fan, I’m still very new to Bazi. One of the concepts I read was that charts should have a kind of balance – Can I say that the chart is not overly hot/cold and has the right supporting elements therefore wood is not necessary?

    Also could you please explain more what makes 30-40 good and 40-50 so so? I’m quite unclear on how to interpret luck pillars, appreciate your insights!


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  • Re: What does this chart need for balance?
    « Reply #3 on: May 27, 2020, 11:27:46 PM »
    Hi,

    This is 己 ji yin earth born at the end of summer so it's very dry. The 2 snakes in the earthly branches produces more fire. So, you're right to say it is a strong DM but its surrounded with too much hot earth such that the metal is melting. Good thing the hour pillar has 壬 yang water with 庚 yang metal supporting it to cool the chart down a bit. Hence, what the person needs is more water and metal. Wood is also good but secondary.

    30 to 40 is Yin Fire rabbits. Yin Fire combine with yang water to create wood, which is career opportunities to him. Very good cycle for him.

    40 to 50 is Yang Fire Tiger. Yang Fire combine with yin metal to produce money opportunities. But, yang fire clash with yang water also tiger clash with monkey in the hour pillar affects his investment, employees and/or children. Moreover, tiger, snake and monkey form bullying punishment which brings about unintentional harm. Hence, good money but not good relationships, so, neutral LP.

    Quite lengthy but you can see the point. He has a good chart with good luck cycles. 2020 should be his good year whereby > 2019 > 2018. There is very little wood in his natal chart but needs water so he cares about money $$$ more than career.

    Cheers, Bazi_fan
    « Last Edit: May 27, 2020, 11:37:47 PM by Bazi_Fan »

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  • Re: What does this chart need for balance?
    « Reply #4 on: May 28, 2020, 02:06:40 PM »
    Not lengthy at all, it’s interesting to understand your process as it makes sense but I’m too new to ‘see’ the pattern form. He is lucky to have avoided an excessively hot chart with cool hour pillar and your comment that he cares about $$$ more than career is accurate.

    Regarding needing water and metal, could this apply to industry or business partners with metal/water DM?

    I also have an interpretation is that there is a friend structure which indicates he should have partners/friends to rely on when it comes to work instead of doing everything himself. Would this analysis make sense?

    Cheers,
    Spartan

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  • Re: What does this chart need for balance?
    « Reply #5 on: May 28, 2020, 02:54:31 PM »
    Hi,

    For jobs and business, there are many theories on how favourable elements are applied. The ones I know of that works: would be to have business within the water and metal industry, starting business during a year with these elements for example this year 2020 and to have employees with heavy water/metal chart.

    As for business partners, bazi shows that he can managed on his own but in practice, it is good to have a partner or at least more startup capital. The issue is he is a workaholic so he will put in more work and money than partners, hence he would end up sharing profit with others. If I'm you, I might help him by contributing capital in return for some profit sharing in his good years.

    The friends formation describes the person's personality, attitude and skillsets which is useful in selecting career. This doesn't mean that partnership are more favourable. 

    Cheers, Bazi_fan

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  • Re: What does this chart need for balance?
    « Reply #6 on: May 28, 2020, 04:44:31 PM »
    Thanks @Bazi_Fan , your explanations are very helpful. In general I think he should be pleased that this cycle supports his desire to generate wealth, and have to note to be more cautious during 40-50 LP.

    I’ve explored the idea of capital contribution, but he is reluctant to accept money from family members in case it spoils the relationship if the business doesn’t work out. We are on good terms.

    This has been an interesting exercise.  Anything else that stands out in his chart to note?

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  • Re: What does this chart need for balance?
    « Reply #7 on: June 01, 2020, 11:45:19 PM »
    Hello everyone, I have a few more questions which I hope to seek your advice.

    1. How should the Fu Yin on the Day and Month pillars be interpreted? Does being a strong DM have a positive/negative impact on this?

    2. I’m also trying to learn more about the useful gods, but as there are so many in the hidden stems I’m not sure what to focus on. Could anyone please provide some guidance?

    Finally just abit of trivia, this might just be a coincidence but my brother is very good in the heat and cannot take cold (20 degrees need to wear jacket) temperature. While on a hot day others can be dripping sweat and he’s still comfortable. Maybe because of all the hot earth in his chart haha

    Best,
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  • Re: What does this chart need for balance?
    « Reply #8 on: June 02, 2020, 08:58:36 AM »
    @Spartan

    1. How should the Fu Yin on the Day and Month pillars be interpreted? Does being a strong DM have a positive/negative impact on this?

    he has a FUYIN between day and year.

    Maybe have a very poor relationship with their grandparents or Equally they may never have even met their grandparents. The Year Pillar also represents one’s social circle, and the configuration here would mean that the individual may not trust his/her friends due to some incident.

    It will impact the Strong day master if the elements are doubling or extremely a lot




    2. I’m also trying to learn more about the useful gods, but as there are so many in the hidden stems I’m not sure what to focus on. Could anyone please provide some guidance?

    His Regulating Useful Gods should be Bing and GUI.

    cheers
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  • Re: What does this chart need for balance?
    « Reply #9 on: June 02, 2020, 12:58:55 PM »
    Thank you for the response @TaiYin . Yes my mistake the FUYIN is on day and year. Completely spot on with the grandparents comment, I’m quite amazed. We had very little interaction with most of the grandparents, and actually never even met 1.

    Could you explain what you mean on the elements doubling? Like adding more earth is not good?

    I’m also trying to understand what structure this chart has (if any) and what the structural useful gods are. Is it simply metal and water like @Bazi_Fan mentions and I’m trying to look too deep where there’s no need?

    Thank you for taking the time to read my posts, greatly appreciate all the knowledge on this forum  :D

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  • Re: What does this chart need for balance?
    « Reply #10 on: June 02, 2020, 01:12:30 PM »
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    « Reply #11 on: June 02, 2020, 01:47:24 PM »
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  • Re: What does this chart need for balance?
    « Reply #12 on: June 02, 2020, 01:48:50 PM »
    Hi,

    This is 己 ji yin earth born at the end of summer so it's very dry. The 2 snakes in the earthly branches produces more fire. So, you're right to say it is a strong DM but its surrounded with too much hot earth such that the metal is melting. Good thing the hour pillar has 壬 yang water with 庚 yang metal supporting it to cool the chart down a bit. Hence, what the person needs is more water and metal. Wood is also good but secondary.

    30 to 40 is Yin Fire rabbits. Yin Fire combine with yang water to create wood, which is career opportunities to him. Very good cycle for him.

    40 to 50 is Yang Fire Tiger. Yang Fire combine with yin metal to produce money opportunities. But, yang fire clash with yang water also tiger clash with monkey in the hour pillar affects his investment, employees and/or children. Moreover, tiger, snake and monkey form bullying punishment which brings about unintentional harm. Hence, good money but not good relationships, so, neutral LP.

    Quite lengthy but you can see the point. He has a good chart with good luck cycles. 2020 should be his good year whereby > 2019 > 2018. There is very little wood in his natal chart but needs water so he cares about money $$$ more than career.

    Cheers, Bazi_fan

    No wood in chart so career quite unstable. He got wealth and outputs in hour so that why he thinking of doing business.

    What is he doing now?

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  • Re: What does this chart need for balance?
    « Reply #13 on: June 02, 2020, 01:56:11 PM »
    Thank you for the response @TaiYin . Yes my mistake the FUYIN is on day and year. Completely spot on with the grandparents comment, I’m quite amazed. We had very little interaction with most of the grandparents, and actually never even met 1.

    Could you explain what you mean on the elements doubling? Like adding more earth is not good?

    I’m also trying to understand what structure this chart has (if any) and what the structural useful gods are. Is it simply metal and water like @Bazi_Fan mentions and I’m trying to look too deep where there’s no need?

    Thank you for taking the time to read my posts, greatly appreciate all the knowledge on this forum  :D

    Hi,

    Fuyin is the identical pillar appearing twice or more in reading the bazi. So, if it is an unfavourable elements then the bad impact is two times or more after allowing for interactions as @TaiYin has mentioned. In worse case, when appearing in AP or LP, IT could induce life threatening situations. The inverse is Fanyin which is opposite pillar appearing and its impact are dependent on the interactions of the element.

    I didn't learn Bazi formally so don't know the structure by heart :P Maybe ask @Tiver: do you know what the structures is?

    The recommendations I provide are general. The deeper studies can provide you insights on what is the effect in each year and for each areas (wealth, career, relationship, health etc). This would take more time to analyse e.g. in Yin Fire LP, not all 10 years are equally good as the analysis need to be done on the AP, LP and natal chart interactions.

    Cheers, Bazi_fan

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  • Re: What does this chart need for balance?
    « Reply #14 on: June 03, 2020, 12:01:22 AM »
    Wow, thank you everyone for all the responses and the Fu Yin explanations. Sorry for the slow reply was quite busy today.

    I think everyone is on the same page that water and metal is the best support for this chart.

    @Palmistry0e : I agree that the career path doesn’t suit him. He had good jobs but got bored of steady/fixed progression, so starting a business now in the metal industry.

    I also came across this combination attached, wondering if the Monkey + Snake –> Water combination applies in the natal chart (double water with Fu Yin?), or it has to be a LP combination

    @Tiver , appreciate your input on the structure if you can spare some time  :D
    I'm reading your reply on structure and useful gods in the other thread, but taking awhile to understand.

    Thank you!
    Spartan

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