Whose chart is better

[deepreasons]

I have a colleague at work and we have a frienemy (friend-enemy) relationship which we can get along on surface but deep down we compete against each other. We are fighting for the same position at work.

Can anyone read whose chart would be better?

Sorry I don't have her birth timing so please ignore time pillar of her chart.

I am: Female, 24 Feb 1990 1am
She is : Female, 31 Oct 1989

Both of us are from Singapore.

Thanks in advance.

[Saphora]

Hi Deepreasons,



First of all, you SG ladies are so resourcefulness. I like the word Frienemy, I have lots of Frienemies in this Forum.

Your previous post, you did ask about your Leadership skill. I would think you will do well at high position, you have the drive, the passion and the skill, why not? Someone who has manager-mentality don't need to have a good Luck-period to shine. They just go for it.

I like this topic, I have never seen two cute ladies fighting for a position. I do see two ladies fighting in the mud regularly.


Saphora.

[deepreasons]

Hi Deepreasons,



First of all, you SG ladies are so resourcefulness. I like the word Frienemy, I have lots of Frienemies in this Forum.

Your previous post, you did ask about your Leadership skill. I would think you will do well at high position, you have the drive, the passion and the skill, why not? Someone who has manager-mentality don't need to have a good Luck-period to shine. They just go for it.

I like this topic, I have never seen two cute ladies fighting for a position. I do see two ladies fighting in the mud regularly.


Saphora.

Thanks Saphora. In the corporate world, ladies fight differently playing mind games which I admit I am not good at it because I am direct and blunt at times.

[TaiYin]

Hi Deepreasons,



First of all, you SG ladies are so resourcefulness. I like the word Frienemy, I have lots of Frienemies in this Forum.

Your previous post, you did ask about your Leadership skill. I would think you will do well at high position, you have the drive, the passion and the skill, why not? Someone who has manager-mentality don't need to have a good Luck-period to shine. They just go for it.

I like this topic, I have never seen two cute ladies fighting for a position. I do see two ladies fighting in the mud regularly.


Saphora.

  @Saphora your response always makes me lol... 
I hope I won't be in your 'frienemy' zone

But I'm very interested about your sentence " I do see two ladies fighting in the mud regularly."  

Cheers

[Bazi_Fan]

Yeah, @Saphora, I'm interested too in the ladies mud fighting 

@deepreasons: based on your natal chart, you do have a bit of a jealousy streak. It's better to channel that emotion into something positive rather than creating frienamy. This is because even you win against her, you may create another one down the track. Also, hopefully you can heed our advice and be less stubborn...

[deepreasons]

Yeah, @Saphora, I'm interested too in the ladies mud fighting 

@deepreasons: based on your natal chart, you do have a bit of a jealousy streak. It's better to channel that emotion into something positive rather than creating frienamy. This is because even you win against her, you may create another one down the track. Also, hopefully you can heed our advice and be less stubborn...

Many thanks @Saphora & @Bazi_Fan. I admit I get jealous easily but just for my learning where did you see the jealous streak?

[Bazi_Fan]

Yeah, @Saphora, I'm interested too in the ladies mud fighting 

@deepreasons: based on your natal chart, you do have a bit of a jealousy streak. It's better to channel that emotion into something positive rather than creating frienamy. This is because even you win against her, you may create another one down the track. Also, hopefully you can heed our advice and be less stubborn...

Many thanks @Saphora & @Bazi_Fan. I admit I get jealous easily but just for my learning where did you see the jealous streak?

You're Geng DM. There is another Geng in your year pillar. Also, this AP is Geng Zi year. On the other hand，your current LP is Yi Hai. So 3 Geng wanna combine with the Yi in the HS  and they are not buddy buddy because Geng is not your favourable element.

[ArtofFugue]

True purpose of CM is not to see who has "better" destiny. Each of us has our own karma to repay, karmic credits to collect back and fortunes to enjoy.

A person with great wealth and power at office might seem glamourous, but you never know what ugly difficulties he/she has in secret, eg;
- huge karmic debt to repay to take care of a mentally-handicapped offspring. (known someone high up like this!)
- short lifespan (eg; Steve Jobs)
- other misfortunes not stated here....

People only show off their glamourous side but not their ugly side. Only shallow and unwise people will admire material things like earthly riches and power!

Comparing impermanent material things like earthly riches and power is really useless and childish. Hope TS would find better meaning in life.

[user2932]

I always LOL, fastest way to be broke and poor is to shun material wealth. There is a reason why in Chinese Mythology and in Hindu Astrology there is a Wealth God.
In China we have 财神, In Hinduism there is Lakshmi. That is why we have 12 houses in Astrology in the first place, The 2nd 6th and 10th houses are known as the Artha houses.
Houses that show if we can attain the necessary resources to fulfill our desires.

The worst thing one can do for their own wealth is to Shun Material Wealth, basically when you do that you are shunning Lakshmi. The Natural Ruler of the 2nd and 9th houses.
The house of wealth and Luck. When you become too spiritual and you shun these houses or aspects in your life you lose the ability to actually full fill yourself.

There is a reason why we have and worship Wealth Gods and Luck Gods. We don't shun them and say we don't need them. If you say that then why would you receive any wealth.

If you really truly wish to pursue spiritual path like you want to become a Monk. Then that is the only time i would understand someone shunning wealth.

[Saphora]

@ArtofFugue

Hi Deepreasons,

I do like both of you, is your friend still available? What is her name? When restrictions are over, maybe I will take a flight to SG for a cup of coffee/something else with her and the night is still young then.

One of the reasons why I am using the coins (prediction), is that I cannot lie based on the hexagram. Later on I will tell a nice story with both of your Bazi-charts to make you ladies happy, I promise.

Today Tuesday 16/June/20 around 17 pm, with the following question:

Who will have a higher position at work?

Subject = Deepreasons, born 24/02/1990
Object = Colleague A, born 31/10/1989

6th line = Yang
5th line = Yin
4th line = Yang (active)
3rd line = Yin
2nd line = Yang (active)
1st line = Yin
Please plot or throw the coins yourself, it is my consequences only.
See picture, you need to get used to it to read the way I plot the hexagram.

Basic interpretation: I am still learning; it could be wrong.
Luckily the results or changing hexagram is a Total Harmony hexagram, it could mean both of you will turn into friends after all. It doesn’t matter who wins or earn more money. I will explain later on with Bazi-method, they are connected.

Subject = Deepreasons, 3rd line Chen-line or Earth line. It is changing into Water-element, which doesn’t support the Subject line. Secondly it is a “White Tiger” line, ArtofFugue will have a smile on his face, because I stole it from him. Let’s say mildly, “White Tiger” line is considered as less positive. It is a Resource-line, it could mean Resourcefulness or mindfulness or just smart.
There is a Money-line Wood-element, it is strong and it is moving, it could have related to money-related.

The other moving line, is from her Colleague’s side. It could mean Colleague A has support from her side. He/She is trying undermined that Deepreasons cannot get that position or money. This is not due to rivalry, but it is to protect Deepreasons for the work-load she will get if she is promoted. Why, because Colleague B has “Green Dragon” line, and is considered as having good intention.

Now at the Colleague A side, Object-line is Power-line or Noble Deity-line and a Fire-line. This line is strong and also has Money-line supported.
Why Noble Deity, Colleague A is protecting Deepreasons to prevent a rivalry other colleagues against Deepreasons. 

At the end, from this Hexagram Colleague A is more suitable for a higher position role. A Happy Ending from this Singaporean Saga is, they will be friends and will support each other after all. It doesn’t matter who the real foe is, but later as a friend.

I almost fall from my chair laughing out my own beautiful story. Seeing two ladies pulling hair in the mud could be more fun.


Saphora.

[Bazi_Fan]

@Saphora: wah, divination and a story!!! Who is colleague B?     . Can you re-tell in lay person terms and add more mud/spice in it?

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[Saphora]

Hi Bazi-Fan,

You are right. I don’t much about Bazi in general, but it is learning to share my point of view.

Geng and Jia are kind of “Opposite Attraction”, this is neutralizing by Yang (Wu-year) and Yin (Si-year).

Both they are supported by same-element as Friend. This could explain about Colleague B, there will be always a third party involved.
Luckily Jia-DM is getting stronger due to supportive 10LP. Colleague A=Jia DM is much more calm person. She has hidden Leadership talents, which she didn’t show off. Later on her other colleagues will support her, because she is a hard worker.

You see here Geng DM (Deepreasons), is definitely the initiative person and the active one. So Passive and Active with a bit controlling game between those two.
Deepreasons has more muscle power and with a heroic mentality. She needs to learn to control her inner energy, like a bit make-up and wear a white short dress. I would think she hates it. Her colleague A=Jia DM is dressing up more fashionable than her. Deepreasons however I would guess, she likes more wearing a t-shirt and a jean to show off what she got behind that t-shirt.

I don’t know anything about you, Bazi-Fan, but Deepreasons is one tough Lady in Armor. She relies most of the time from her strength and self-confident to make things done. She is relying in herself most of the time: so be gentle with her.
She is not afraid to take risk, that is why she likes to dominate in a mind-game.
As you already have mentioned, Deepreasons is at this moment not on top of her abilities.

BTW, nice to have a chat with new friend of mine. I am also a Fan in Bazi.


Saphora.

[Bazi_Fan]

Hi @Saphora,

Thanks for the story  . Could colleague B be the boss?

Someone once described HR is a female battlefield where the catfights are behind the scenes. This is like Joan of Arc vs. Poison Ivy and then poison ivy turn to friendly ivy  .

Our Joan of Arc has a lot of potential in life and could grow from this LP experience.

I didn't get the "neutralizing by Yang (Wu-year) and Yin (si-year)". Those are their year pillar right? How does their social circle come into play?

Cheers, Bazi_Fan

[ArtofFugue]

@TS : Some points for your reference....

1. Same quote I gave another forumer: "quote from a cantonese song"

If you have the karma and destiny to have something, it will eventually come to you.
If not, you can forcefully try to gain it, it will never come to you.

2. Stop comparing yourself with other people. It's psychological poison! Learn to love yourself and free yourself from negative emotions. You've got a job, a roof over your head and food to eat, be thankful with your share!



3. One of the most respected monks in the World, and the most respected one in the Singapore explaining Fengshui, Material Wealth and Karma. Reverend Hong Chuan was a great fengshui master himself. Even MM Lee Kuan Kew consulted him.