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  • follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « on: August 06, 2020, 09:06:34 PM »
    Hi

    My friend is born on March 29, 1988 10:30AM (female)

    Here is her chart

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    is she a follower chart?

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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #1 on: August 07, 2020, 03:23:46 PM »
    Hi AzizFrost,


    I don’t know since when they started to call it as “Follow the Leader chart”. If you ask any seniors here, they would say it is “Outdated”.

    I would say, Bazi is more than just 4 pillars and could have many extra elements which it is not discovered yet.

    Please allow me to explain it to you, this theory is supported by independent Masters around the world.

    Bazi could reflect into Traditional Chinese Medicine Theory, it is related somehow. TCM is teaching us to avoid exaggerated energy flow in our organs. If your Kidney (Water) is weak, don’t support extra the Fire (Heart), Earth (Stomach), Wood (Liver). “Follow the Leader chart” theory says in opposite. IMO, we have to invest further before we recommend this Theory. Many Masters will give your money back, if they see such extreme weak chart. One mistake, they will ruin their reputation, in the worst case scenario: your life.

    The Cons:
    -   Your Bazi, the element Resource is only hidden as Sub-Qi in the Hour-pillar. It could mean your Metal-element is extreme weak, right?
    According to Traditional Chinese Medicine your Lung is collapsing right now, or after birth. At least you are suffering with a collapsed Lung with asthma, COPD, infections like influenza, pneumonia and tuberculosis.
    Metal is the mother of Water, according to Five-elements theory. It means your Kidney network is collapsing too, right?
    The reproductive organ is part of the Kidney-system; it could mean you cannot have children.
    You can breathe normally, right? So you don’t need to worry about that Metal-element. You still can go to the toilet every morning, right? So you don’t need to worry about your Water-element. Water-element means also “Having Friends”, someone to talk to. I am available as a Friend; you can talk to me anytime you like. In this Forum, we all are your Friends except paying your bills, right?

    Surely having a complete balanced Bazi, is most ideal. Luckily our Body is able to balance it to an extend limit.
    Maybe you should invest further and compare it with other methods.

    The Pros:
    -   You may have heard about the 5 pillars methods, included the Minutes pillar. Now in this Forum they have the Bazi-Conception pillars: 8 Pillars.
    Life Career:
    -   (HS) Indirect Resource Xin - You (HSS Indirect Resource)
    Life Conception:
    -   (HS) Direct Wealth Bing Wu
    Body (Wealth):
    -   (HS) Indirect Resource Xin - You (HSS Indirect Resource)
    Conception Aura:
    -   (HS) Direct Officer Wu Wu

    So in Body (Wealth) and Life (Career) you do have both Indirect Resource elements.

    -   Water-element could relate to the Kidney-network or able to have children. Luckily during the periods of 18-48 yo your Water-element will be supported and strong. So you have plenty time to have children. The only thing you need is a Man, yes a Man like me.

    The most important time of our life begins from 20-50 years old. Yours is like that, so I would not worry too much about the so called “Extreme weak chart”.

    Possible solutions:
    -   If you already know that your Metal-element is weak. The best solution is doing breathing exercises. Just have a 15 minutes a day walk, you will strengthen your Lung and herewith your Kidney too. Healthy Lung is Healthy Children is the secret according to TCM.

    Bazi could be compared with the “Inherited Theory” or the genes from your parents. You could check in any close female relatives someone who has Asthma, Skin, or lung related weakness. You could also check if any close female relatives someone who has child-birth issues which it is related to Kidney-network. You could also check if any close female relatives someone who has extreme Bladder issues before their 63 years old.

    If nobody has these issues, you don’t need to worry about it. It means you have good “Genes” even you have that “Follow the Leader” chart. Than we have to invest further.

    Bazi is more than just a few elements that we have already discovered.



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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #2 on: August 07, 2020, 10:09:34 PM »
    Yin Water DM is using Wood to obtain Earth (power). Could work well but DM needs to be stronger, so Water or Metal luck should be good.
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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #3 on: August 08, 2020, 12:23:02 AM »
    Hi @azizfrost

    I don't know what seniors @Saphora is talking about, but i definitely don't think it's outdated to use follow charts.
    Follow charts have been used accurately for over 1200 years. Somehow it makes it  to this decade and you got people saying it is outdated.

    Then you have people complaining about Traditional BaZi not working for them, when they aren't even doing traditional bazi in the first place.
    Well if you use crazy techniques and consider real techniques outdated no wonder Traditional BaZi don't work for you.

    IMO this chart is a Follow chart, 从势格 in fact this chart is a real 从势格.
    Fire as (Wealth) is going to be the main use for this chart.
    It acts as a 通关用神 for Earth and Wood in the chart.

    This chart definitely do not need to see any more metal or water.
    壬子 and could be bad for her, means she could be going against what is good for her.





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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #4 on: August 08, 2020, 12:53:09 AM »
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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #5 on: August 08, 2020, 01:05:04 AM »
    If that’s true, and this is a follower chart, then she should be in a very difficult period right now. Can this be confirmed? What do we know about her?
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    Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #6 on: August 08, 2020, 01:13:45 AM »
    If that’s true, and this is a follower chart, then she should be in a very difficult period right now.
    Why?
    Ding (HP) + Ren n(LP) transformed to Wood.
     8)
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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #7 on: August 08, 2020, 01:18:03 AM »
    If this chart was male, would be very high level.
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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #8 on: August 08, 2020, 01:21:43 AM »
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    Hi azizfrost,

    I also consider this a follow chart, cong ge.

    @BillonaireboyLam, I thought wood is yong shen,  and xi shen is wood and also fire. Can you tell me why you decide for fire to be yong shen ?

    Fire is 通关用神
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    « Reply #9 on: August 08, 2020, 01:43:10 AM »
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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #10 on: August 08, 2020, 02:43:12 AM »

    H  D  M  Y
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    辰 卯 卯 巳

    癸 水 無 根 虛 浮 , 其 勢 必 從 , 木 雖 當 令 , 但 只 有 二 顆 而 火 有 三 顆 , 故 不 能 從 兒 , 也 非 從 財 而 是 從 勢 , 即 從 木 火 , 用 火 喜 木 而 忌 金 水 。

    A very similar example found on Master So's site.
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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #11 on: August 08, 2020, 04:36:42 AM »
    If that’s true, and this is a follower chart, then she should be in a very difficult period right now.
    Why?
    Ding (HP) + Ren n(LP) transformed to Wood.
     8)

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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #12 on: August 08, 2020, 07:26:24 AM »
    If that’s true, and this is a follower chart, then she should be in a very difficult period right now. Can this be confirmed? What do we know about her?

    Yes, life is not very good for her right now. Husband left her in 2012 I think.
    Also she doesn't have very much money.

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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #13 on: August 08, 2020, 12:30:37 PM »
    If that’s true, and this is a follower chart, then she should be in a very difficult period right now. Can this be confirmed? What do we know about her?

    Yes, life is not very good for her right now. Husband left her in 2012 I think.
    Also she doesn't have very much money.

    Water Rat represents competition (husband’s lovers) and rob wealth (losing money).

    Ok, then I agree, this is most likely follower chart.
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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #14 on: August 08, 2020, 01:06:01 PM »
    If that’s true, and this is a follower chart, then she should be in a very difficult period right now. Can this be confirmed? What do we know about her?

    Yes, life is not very good for her right now. Husband left her in 2012 I think.
    Also she doesn't have very much money.

    Water Rat represents competition (husband’s lovers) and rob wealth (losing money).

    Ok, then I agree, this is most likely follower chart.


    So she will not have good luck anymore?

    most of her luck pillars are water and metal, which are bad for her. =(

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