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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #15 on: August 08, 2020, 01:22:28 PM »
    If that’s true, and this is a follower chart, then she should be in a very difficult period right now. Can this be confirmed? What do we know about her?

    Yes, life is not very good for her right now. Husband left her in 2012 I think.
    Also she doesn't have very much money.

    Water Rat represents competition (husband’s lovers) and rob wealth (losing money).

    Ok, then I agree, this is most likely follower chart.


    So she will not have good luck anymore?

    most of her luck pillars are water and metal, which are bad for her. =(

    It doesn't mean she won't be lucky, The coming wood and fire years will be good for her.
    She just needs to be more frugal for the next two years and focus on improving her skills.
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    « Reply #16 on: August 08, 2020, 02:25:43 PM »
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    Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #17 on: August 08, 2020, 04:25:04 PM »
    Yes, life is not very good for her right now. Husband left her in 2012 I think.
    But actual LP Ren Zi started in 2016.
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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #18 on: August 08, 2020, 04:37:10 PM »
    Yes, life is not very good for her right now. Husband left her in 2012 I think.
    But actual LP Ren Zi started in 2016.
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    yes, but is Gui Chou also bad LP for her?

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    Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #19 on: August 08, 2020, 04:49:47 PM »
    yes, but is Gui Chou also bad LP for her?
    Yes because:
    1) Gui symbolised other woman which comes.
    2) Chou clashes with Wei (Spouse Palace) - the divorce (Earth is her man element).
    3) Gui combined with Wu (Hour Pillar) to Fire - loss of Wealth.
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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #20 on: August 08, 2020, 08:32:00 PM »
    yes, but is Gui Chou also bad LP for her?
    Yes because:
    1) Gui symbolised other woman which comes.
    2) Chou clashes with Wei (Spouse Palace) - the divorce (Earth is her man element).
    3) Gui combined with Wu (Hour Pillar) to Fire - loss of Wealth.
     8)

    Thanks, but Wu is in year pillar

    but isn't fire her wealth star? and should fire be favorable to her follower chart?

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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #21 on: August 09, 2020, 01:32:19 AM »
    2012 Was a big water year, 壬辰.
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    « Reply #22 on: August 09, 2020, 08:27:06 PM »
    Hi Azizfrost,

    “Follow chart” could be dangerous, if you don’t use it properly.
    Bazi is reflecting with TCM, this is genuine theory. Balancing with the elements with the wrong organs network could be dangerous.
    Let’s us compare it with ZWDS.

    Life Palace:
    -   Tai Yin is shining at night, the right time and space. (Tai Yang is also shining at the right time and space.)
    Career Palace:
    -   Tian Liang and Tian Tong
    Wealth Palace:
    -   Tian Ji
    Property Palace:
    -   Tian Xiang – Leadership star
    Sibling Palace:
    -   Tian Fu – Leadership star
    This is Internal Palace which refer to the self.

    Although most of the stars are gentle and kindness stars, you could say they are “Passive stars”. Luckily Tian Xiang and Tian Fu are dominant stars or leadership stars. This chart is according to ZWDS is not totally weak compared it with Bazi, the Follow chart.
    Only Zi Wei has the highest position in Children palace.

    ZWDS Health vs Bazi Health:
    -   I would think that the Bazi-Follow chart could refer to Health-improvement. “Leader” is could refer to Medicine, the Power-element. It could mean that person needs to take in long term Medicine. Without taking the Medicine the patient could die, for this reason.
    -   Feeding the “Leader” could also mean Feeding with the “Drugs” or “Dependent”.


    That is why “Follow chart” is contradicted with TCM. Balancing the organs network naturally through self-healing (Five-Arts) or feeding with the “Drugs/Leader” (Western Medicine).
    “Self-healing” or with TCM is part of the Five-Arts.



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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #23 on: August 09, 2020, 09:52:59 PM »
    @Saphora you can change your name can't change your ways cough @ArtofFugue cough.
    Show me evidence where it say ziwei in children palace mean it is not a follow chart in bazi.

    Where is the evidence to show that?

    Tai Yin , Tai Yang being in right place is a zwds technique that has nothing to do with interpreting a bazi.
    Where in what book show that this ZWDS technique stops a bazi chart from following.
    Please enlighten us.
    Please explain how Follow leader = Follow drugs as well.

    « Last Edit: August 09, 2020, 09:54:41 PM by BillionaireboyLam »
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    « Reply #24 on: August 10, 2020, 03:23:39 PM »
    @Saphora you can change your name can't change your ways cough @ArtofFugue cough.
    Show me evidence where it say ziwei in children palace mean it is not a follow chart in bazi.

    Where is the evidence to show that?

    Tai Yin , Tai Yang being in right place is a zwds technique that has nothing to do with interpreting a bazi.
    Where in what book show that this ZWDS technique stops a bazi chart from following.
    Please enlighten us.
    Please explain how Follow leader = Follow drugs as well.


    yes, it's kinda weird. she doesn't even take drugs.  :-X


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    « Reply #25 on: August 10, 2020, 03:53:21 PM »
    Hi All,

    Please allow me to add a story related to this topic. One of my first book in English was from GM Raymond Lo about Bazi and Health. As a Beginner I am still struggling with his book.

    Yes, indeed. I am struggling about the Following Leader chart, as I already have mentioned: It didn’t make sense to me according to TCM.

    Celine Dion is for example. In 2011 I already knew that it was something not right about her Health, but I cannot explain it at that time. I don’t why GM Raymond Lo didn’t mention about her Health in his book.

    After 9 years in 2020, although Celine Dion keep her health as a secret, but they don’t fool me. If Celine Dion knows this Forum, she probably suffers less, and maybe she can heal herself without taking any Drugs as Medication.
    As I have highlight before: TCM and Bazi are very powerful tool, uses it in good manner.

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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #26 on: August 10, 2020, 04:08:36 PM »
    Hi AzizFrost,


    My apologize for making a mistake. I have no intentions to stir up this topic by my Beginner's mistakes.

    Sorry again and others too.

    I need to learn more from seniors here.


    Thanks.


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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #27 on: August 12, 2020, 08:57:35 PM »


    Hi All,

    Did I share lately my jokes to you guys? No? Normally I would.

    Coincidence I remember 6 years ago (2014) one of the member’s topic:
    https://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=113.0

    I have edited and highlighted the first page only. The rest is up to you to read; I haven’t read it either.

    In the attachment one of the member of Fivearts from Singapore had donated the ZWDS-Calculator (Lilian Metaphysics Science) to me which I have shown you before. I donated some money to the Zen-Temple and he donated me that calculator.

    The Key to unlock those forever Dramas: “Traditional Chinese Medicine and self-healing”.

    Coincidence it could be related to Follow Chart, endless discussion.

    Coincidence it was about another Grand Master.

    Coincidence in 2020 the topic is being revived.

    So much coincidences that I am now confused.

    I love this fantastic Forum.


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  • Re: follower chart? (extreme weak)
    « Reply #28 on: August 12, 2020, 11:37:34 PM »
    What i am really wondering why you don't just use your main account @ArtofFugue.
    If you base your bazi reading off the good and bad years elementally speaking you are not a grandmaster.
    People who are afraid to see water don't always mean they will have bad water years.
    Lol that is beginner level analysis not grandmaster advanced level.
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    « Reply #29 on: August 14, 2020, 08:23:23 PM »
    What i am really wondering why you don't just use your main account @ArtofFugue.
    If you base your bazi reading off the good and bad years elementally speaking you are not a grandmaster.
    People who are afraid to see water don't always mean they will have bad water years.
    Lol that is beginner level analysis not grandmaster advanced level.

    haha im also guilty of that, reading bazi using elements only hahaha!

    can you tell if my friend will become rich? because I think most extreme weak charts are either very lucky and rich or very unlucky. but I might be wrong  :(

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