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    « on: November 08, 2020, 03:17:12 PM »
    Hello,
    I’m wondering if this is an extremely weak or follower chart, and what would the UG be please?  He is having extreme bad luck this year. Dec 6, 1952, Shen hour.  Thank you.

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    « Reply #1 on: November 08, 2020, 03:22:17 PM »
    It's not a follower chart because of fire support within the Dog.

    This Rat year activated Water structure, making Yang Fire weak.
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    « Reply #2 on: November 08, 2020, 03:48:19 PM »
    It's not a follower chart because of fire support within the Dog.

    This Rat year activated Water structure, making Yang Fire weak.

    Thank you very much!  I see both reasons and it’s very helpful to my learning. If there’s no Jia/Yi would it still be a UG?  Or since it’s only in the hidden stems then it means that there’s no affinity for wood and wood cannot be used?  Is it better to use wood or fire as UG?  Thank you.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 08, 2020, 04:22:39 PM »
    It's not a follower chart because of fire support within the Dog.

    This Rat year activated Water structure, making Yang Fire weak.

    Thank you very much!  I see both reasons and it’s very helpful to my learning. If there’s no Jia/Yi would it still be a UG?  Or since it’s only in the hidden stems then it means that there’s no affinity for wood and wood cannot be used?  Is it better to use wood or fire as UG?  Thank you.

    Both elements can be used here. Fire to warm up the chart, wood to absorb the water and support Fire.
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    « Reply #4 on: November 08, 2020, 09:46:50 PM »
    It's not a follower chart because of fire support within the Dog.

    This Rat year activated Water structure, making Yang Fire weak.

    Thank you very much!  I see both reasons and it’s very helpful to my learning. If there’s no Jia/Yi would it still be a UG?  Or since it’s only in the hidden stems then it means that there’s no affinity for wood and wood cannot be used?  Is it better to use wood or fire as UG?  Thank you.

    Both elements can be used here. Fire to warm up the chart, wood to absorb the water and support Fire.


    Thank you again. Does it matter if there is no affinity to wood?  I wonder if this makes it not useable.

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    « Reply #5 on: November 09, 2020, 02:08:06 AM »
    I think most people have bad luck this yr cuz of pandemic and shutdowns. 

    since he have dragon dog clash in chart.  he should be carrying a rabbit pendent of sorts for protection for life. that's the easiest first thing he can do to ward bad luck from clash.
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    « Reply #6 on: November 09, 2020, 02:42:52 AM »
    I think most people have bad luck this yr cuz of pandemic and shutdowns. 

    since he have dragon dog clash in chart.  he should be carrying a rabbit pendent of sorts for protection for life. that's the easiest first thing he can do to ward bad luck from clash.

    Thank you very much!  I see then that wood is still useable. Is there a rule for when there is affinity with an element and when there is not?  I assume in this case that even though wood is good, it can’t be used because it’s only in the hidden stems, and can only be used when the stem appears, it can’t be used regularly. This has never been clear to me. 

    This pandemic year has indeed been hard.  For him, divorce, loss of wealth, loss of support from mother, insomnia, another unit leaked water into his condo and now has to do major repairs which keep getting delayed, and others. The theme is that nothing is going right and when he makes an effort to fix it backfires and goes terrible. I think it’s because, as johnyqi pointed out, the rat is bringing more water. The loss of support from mother is surprising to me because mother is resource (wood) and wood should be a stabilizing element here.  I’m by no means any master, just a learning enthusiast, and I supported him to contact his mother but when she refused to see him it sent him into deeper emotional despair and I feel bad about this and maybe I mis-interpret his chart.

    I will get him some rabbits!  Thank you.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 09, 2020, 03:23:33 AM »
    The wood is flooded out. From your description water is obviously the problem so any element that can contain it or use it is useful.
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    « Reply #8 on: November 09, 2020, 03:26:46 AM »
    The wood is flooded out. From your description water is obviously the problem so any element that can contain it or use it is useful.

    Thank you!  I will see if there’s a way to inject more fire. I truly appreciate all the pointers and lessons!

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    « Reply #9 on: November 09, 2020, 08:43:50 AM »
    Not live rabbits!!  they reproduce fast. lol.  can't carry them around.  they be cute bunny for pets though.   Some people get a pet cat or pet dog if they need that particular animal for curing clash. Live pets too much work. haha.

     rabbit pendant charm of sorts that he will carry with him for life like a keychain. People always put keys in pocket as they go about. My teacher put a jade pig charm on his phone as he always have his phone with him.  Me? i have coin of tiger on my keychain.  Some country have animal coins.

    Earth is the ingredient to produce money. And they are being clashed.  His earth is also wealth storage being clashed.  And it's in his day pillar which is his spouse palace. So all those you mentioned isn't a surprise. life in relationships would be hard for him.  Annual Water don't support him so he's weak not being able to handle money so challenging time with wealth.
    « Last Edit: November 09, 2020, 08:50:48 AM by fengshuiartist »

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    « Reply #10 on: November 09, 2020, 10:26:56 AM »
    Hi Mama,

    DM is extremely weak.
    Both type of fire are favourable since one can remove wealth while the other can remove the 7killing.
    Water and metal are bad for him.

    Can you kindly share about what happened during these luck cycles, thank you.

    From 1973, his 10 years luck pillars step in full wood
    From 1983, also another full wood pillar
    May i know if the above 20 years are actually tougher rather than better for him.

    Things start to improve from 1993 onwards after stepping into fire pillars.
    Are his best years from 2013 onwards when he entered Wu Wu luck pillar?

    Thank you for sharing.

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    « Reply #11 on: November 09, 2020, 12:47:43 PM »
    Not live rabbits!!  they reproduce fast. lol.  can't carry them around.  they be cute bunny for pets though.   Some people get a pet cat or pet dog if they need that particular animal for curing clash. Live pets too much work. haha.

     rabbit pendant charm of sorts that he will carry with him for life like a keychain. People always put keys in pocket as they go about. My teacher put a jade pig charm on his phone as he always have his phone with him.  Me? i have coin of tiger on my keychain.  Some country have animal coins.

    Earth is the ingredient to produce money. And they are being clashed.  His earth is also wealth storage being clashed.  And it's in his day pillar which is his spouse palace. So all those you mentioned isn't a surprise. life in relationships would be hard for him.  Annual Water don't support him so he's weak not being able to handle money so challenging time with wealth.

    Thank you very much for this explanation and lesson. Makes sense when it’s explained like this!!!

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    « Reply #12 on: November 09, 2020, 12:48:41 PM »
    Not live rabbits!!  they reproduce fast. lol.  can't carry them around.  they be cute bunny for pets though.   Some people get a pet cat or pet dog if they need that particular animal for curing clash. Live pets too much work. haha.

     rabbit pendant charm of sorts that he will carry with him for life like a keychain. People always put keys in pocket as they go about. My teacher put a jade pig charm on his phone as he always have his phone with him.  Me? i have coin of tiger on my keychain.  Some country have animal coins.

    Earth is the ingredient to produce money. And they are being clashed.  His earth is also wealth storage being clashed.  And it's in his day pillar which is his spouse palace. So all those you mentioned isn't a surprise. life in relationships would be hard for him.  Annual Water don't support him so he's weak not being able to handle money so challenging time with wealth.

    Thank you very much for this explanation and lesson. Makes sense when it’s explained like this!!!

    And lol, no live rabbits  ;D

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    « Reply #13 on: November 09, 2020, 01:51:51 PM »
    Hi Mama,

    DM is extremely weak.
    Both type of fire are favourable since one can remove wealth while the other can remove the 7killing.
    Water and metal are bad for him.

    Can you kindly share about what happened during these luck cycles, thank you.

    From 1973, his 10 years luck pillars step in full wood
    From 1983, also another full wood pillar
    May i know if the above 20 years are actually tougher rather than better for him.

    Things start to improve from 1993 onwards after stepping into fire pillars.
    Are his best years from 2013 onwards when he entered Wu Wu luck pillar?

    Thank you for sharing.

    Hello bqwire,

    I’ve re-written this and full disclosure, this is my father. I’m sorry I didn’t disclose earlier. I was trying to help from a distance and I think the best way is for me to understand the Bazi as much as I can with more details than I wanted to share in the beginning. I’m not entirely sure of all of the luck pillars.  1992 was one of the worst years because we lost my brother.  There were deep cracks in the relationship before this (the 80’s were not smooth), but they overcame all that and this loss time and time again because of my dad’s strength. He did say for the last 23 years they lived happily and during those years 10 of them were the greatest of the marriage, so I agree that things started to improve after 1993.  After everything they have overcome he’s in disbelief of the divorce and I’m trying to help him with acceptance and his part in the breakdown of the relationship. There’s something I can’t seem to tap into, or I’m not meant to, as in, I asked him if he’s cried yet and he hasn’t, so I think he’s still angry. I was busy with my own kids in the 2000’s but what I know is that they enjoyed a good life together and looked forward to their last days together. It all came apart this year. My mom has a horse in the year pillar and I believe the rat made her, and the relationship, unstable. Now I see how the rat also affects my dad chart. It was very childish of me to think I could add as much as the UG as possible and chose the useless wood. I still think this will help to get them to wherever place they need to get in their relationship and I’m curious to see what happens next year after the rat ends.

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    « Reply #14 on: November 09, 2020, 02:10:47 PM »
    Extremely weak DM. 2020 to 2021 is pretty bad. 2022 he will start progressing again.

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