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  • How important is the location of birth for Bazi calculation
    « on: January 17, 2021, 06:10:36 PM »
    Some Bazi calculators ask for longitude of birth location. Some others ask for both Longitude and Latitude. Some others don't ask at all. Why is that?

    How important is the location of birth for Bazi calculation?
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  • Re: How important is the location of birth for Bazi calculation
    « Reply #1 on: January 17, 2021, 06:27:03 PM »
    It depends if we want to align it by the Sun or not.
    If we want to align it by the Sun, that means we place Wu horse at 12:00 noon and Zi rat at 0:00 midnight, basically.
    The idea is that in that way the branches become a movement, it expands at the max light in the day at noon(Sun is highest in the sky), and it contracts at midnight.

    Not everyone uses that.
    People that do use it, will need to get the position of the Sun in some way. If the calculator doesn't ask for both, it will likely ask for timezone as timezone is a good measure of the missing part.


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  • Re: How important is the location of birth for Bazi calculation
    « Reply #2 on: January 17, 2021, 06:43:48 PM »
    It depends if we want to align it by the Sun or not.
    If we want to align it by the Sun, that means we place Wu horse at 12:00 noon and Zi rat at 0:00 midnight, basically.
    The idea is that in that way the branches become a movement, it expands at the max light in the day at noon(Sun is highest in the sky), and it contracts at midnight.

    Not everyone uses that.
    People that do use it, will need to get the position of the Sun in some way. If the calculator doesn't ask for both, it will likely ask for timezone as timezone is a good measure of the missing part.

    Thank you. One calculator that I rather trust asks for Longitude and I give my longitude, but it says that the calculator makes adjustment to my birth hour. And that several pillars are in border.
    And by changing just 0.8degree of longitude (by eliminating the comma), my Day Master changes from Yang Metal to Yin Fire.
     

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  • Re: How important is the location of birth for Bazi calculation
    « Reply #3 on: January 17, 2021, 07:00:05 PM »
    Don't worry too much about it, I have seen very accurate readings done by people with and without time adjustment. So both charts should have relevance to you.
    Although practice shows one of them will align  much better to how you use the system.

    Think of it as "human laws and ideas"(no adjustment) vs "natures laws"(adjustment for the Sun).
    For many people both will align, for some it will be different, for others it will be very different... Both are needed, to get full picture, sometimes, however... And of course, both have relevance.

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  • Re: How important is the location of birth for Bazi calculation
    « Reply #5 on: January 17, 2021, 09:14:48 PM »
    truly depending on the master's way of reading.

    From experience I find the adjusted time do reflect a more accurate reading. But occasionally where the time is borderline, would need to find out any events from the native to determine the time.

    Again, others would share that the time as specified in birth cert will reflect accurate readings too.

    if the seeker is unsure, just go for both type of readings to see which one matches your path well.
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    « Reply #8 on: January 18, 2021, 12:01:57 PM »
    it's just using location to help figure out hr time.

    no biggy as its' often the hr that pertain to one's latter life.  by that time people don't care as they put the ground work into living life.  most info is in the day, month, yr pillar anyways.   the hour is like 2 hrs apart to another branch time. One can always check if hr is correct by feedback of a person's life. it's not a big deal.  this is small stuff.   Hr pillar is more your internal goals so its not so influential in real life exterior influence.  most important is the day pillar anyways and most if it is influence by the changing times of monthly/annual/ decade yrs. 

    Bazi focus is on your day self not hour.

    besides not everyone know birth time , and it still can get lots of good accurate info.

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  • Re: How important is the location of birth for Bazi calculation
    « Reply #9 on: January 18, 2021, 12:41:23 PM »
    Some Bazi calculators ask for longitude of birth location. Some others ask for both Longitude and Latitude. Some others don't ask at all. Why is that?

    How important is the location of birth for Bazi calculation?

    There are various studies out there, where some says birth location is not important and some pretty important. I have tested both method and found out using Longitude of birth location have higher accuracy when i cross reference it with ZWDS, especially for cases where the hour is at the borderline. Test it for yourself and verify it

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  • Re: How important is the location of birth for Bazi calculation
    « Reply #10 on: January 19, 2021, 05:55:46 PM »
    Hello Ananda!

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    Some Bazi calculators ask for longitude of birth location. Some others ask for both Longitude and Latitude. Some others don't ask at all. Why is that?
    How important is the location of birth for Bazi calculation?

    In the end, it is important which Chinese hour works in the chart. And what time it will correspond to, zonal, solar, with amendments, without amendments, it is not so important then. If it correctly displays the real circumstances and events of life, then the time is correct within the established framework of a certain system or BaZi school or master. Calculators may create the illusion of the correct hour, no matter how advanced they are. Therefore, when the hour factor plays a significant role in chart reading, it needs to be checked.

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