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  • Not sure if skyscraperseeker understood what I've said so far...

    Already mentioned that I will not be translating the "Six Family Relations" test (考时定刻) and "Kou Ru Fa" method (扣入法), yet he had to pick a line that is related to "Six Family Relations" test (考时定刻). ::)

    I translated all lines for sake of completeness but in my intro in the english translation of lines thread, I already told people to ignore the death lines, "What is the purpose of telling a querent that his mother/father is going to pass away at certain age? I would suggest everyone to ignore the death lines..."

    Too many new accounts appearing then disappearing, can't help but to wonder, what happened to them? ???
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  • @skrybeskeeker: You doubt that I will accomplish much with this approach? It is your opinion only and I disagree. I wasn’t trying to re-invent anything if you bothered to understand. I even left alternate lines as they are. By omitting methods which I’m unsure of is not considered as “re-inventing”. If any TBSS master is here, feel free to translate those 2 methods I’ve left out.

    Life’s events are pre-determined? Heard of freewill? Heard of the man who was predicted by fortune-teller to die soon, yet living till 80 years old?
    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=700.0. Heard from TBSS customers from Youtube, even authentic and genuine TBSS readings are not 100% accurate.

    You must be new to concepts like destiny, this life’s karma, past life’s karma and freewill. Why not be less aggressive, more humble and more open-minded?

    To answer your question: “Why not humble yourself and try to learn something from it that might actually change your point of view?”
    Actually I did and I’m learning new life lessons every time I translate those lines, not sure if you’ve read these:
    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=1222.msg141982#msg141982
    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=1222.msg124747#msg124747
    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=1222.msg77056#msg77056
    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=1222.msg35082#msg35082
    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=1222.msg52201#msg52201

    But if you want me to satisfy your personal definition of “humble” (ie; to accept whatever the ancient masters taught and not to question them), then I’m unable to live up to your expectations and please you. I’m like Master Xu Lewu and Grandmaster Pan Ziyu, who dared to question the original/authentic teachings/theories.

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  • I'm not completely "blind", I know the calculation methods, I know what the lines mean. What I don't know and refuse to practise (and translate) are some other methods which are deemed "useless" by some people in the TBSS online community in China/Taiwan.
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  • Re: How to derive Tie Ban Shen Shu’s text line nos from your Bazi chart?
    « Reply #37 on: November 14, 2016, 02:02:00 PM »
    @ArtofFugue

    Hello,
    Firstly, thank you for your laborious translation.
    Now, I finally calculated the lines. Almost all of them are promising. Longevity( 89, 90), blissful marriage and an auspicious career path are ahead of me.
    But the hour line sounds sinister: in the flock of geese suddenly five were gone. As I don't have background in Chinese culture I wonder if there is a particular metaphor/idiom in the language or is it open to interpretation? I'd read it as a big loss of something or someone.


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  • Re: How to derive Tie Ban Shen Shu’s text line nos from your Bazi chart?
    « Reply #38 on: November 14, 2016, 02:12:22 PM »
    Is the age in TBSS refer to Chinese age? Let say TBSS says age 44 actually means age 43?

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  • Re: How to derive Tie Ban Shen Shu’s text line nos from your Bazi chart?
    « Reply #39 on: March 18, 2017, 10:23:17 PM »
    @vesenya : "Geese" is a metaphor for siblings in TBSS. Were you separated or living far away from siblings at that period?

    @mushroom : Yes it's chinese age, needs to minus 1 to convert to actual age.

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  • Re: How to derive Tie Ban Shen Shu’s text line nos from your Bazi chart?
    « Reply #40 on: August 14, 2017, 10:48:27 PM »
    Hi Guys,

    Did you know they have an app these days, available though Google Play:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.walterch.ironfortune

    regards,
    Frank

    PS: I'm interested in the TBSS too, but after reading about all those different styles of getting numbers for your own one-liners-horoscope (one method through the page of Makito Ogino, 16 (!) in the Google app and some in this forum) i still am looking for the one line that puts me on my knees by surprise as I have not found a SINGLE line telling something about me... I do have some modest finds through the app, but then still it's not for the full 100% that I can say: WOW!... So, I don't know about that 'pre-determind' thing...

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  • Re: How to derive Tie Ban Shen Shu’s text line nos from your Bazi chart?
    « Reply #41 on: August 14, 2017, 11:10:37 PM »
    @Frank : If not accurate for your chart, don't use. Don't bother. It's ok.

    Just for your info... It's accurate for my own chart, family's, colleagues' & friends' charts. And it's also accurate for Donald Trump:

    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14100.msg166373#msg166373

    It's also accurate for a "State Factory Head" of some foreign country:

    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=13142.msg167278#msg167278
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  • Re: How to derive Tie Ban Shen Shu’s text line nos from your Bazi chart?
    « Reply #42 on: August 17, 2017, 06:50:13 PM »
    And the way numbers 30, 60, etc are linked to the lines is just ONE of the many ways of how they try to get information out of the Tieban technique. I have tryed to see some answers with the use of the HLLS, XKDG and LY-hexagrams as well... Some light succes... One of the hexagrams 'told' me I should have be rich and famous by now... I guess what it probably ment was that I'm rich and famous in my own bubble :-D. But we keep on experimenting...

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  • Re: How to derive Tie Ban Shen Shu’s text line nos from your Bazi chart?
    « Reply #43 on: August 17, 2017, 07:29:17 PM »
    Well, different CM method works differently for different people (even of same birthdate).

    Donald Trump and Timothy Getty have same Bazi chart but different fates!
    Trump becomes a president at 70 while Timothy died at age 12!

    10 factors that made a difference in a destiny



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    Re: How to derive Tie Ban Shen Shu’s text line nos from your Bazi chart?
    « Reply #44 on: August 17, 2017, 07:37:39 PM »
    Tie Ban’s emphasis on the specific quarter-hour (fifteen-minute segment) of birth ensures the relatively high degree of accuracy, in comparison with other divination methods.
    Is that +96 for every quarter for accurate analysis

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    Re: How to derive Tie Ban Shen Shu’s text line nos from your Bazi chart?
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