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A post by Manty - 口德
« on: August 16, 2014, 10:40:05 AM »
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What's the difference between success and mastery?
A success is when you achieve doing something once while mastery is when you know you can achieve it again and again and again.
~ Sarah Lewis

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Re: A post by Manty - 口德
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2014, 11:11:34 AM »
@TPY

That was a valuable post.  If someone have a copy that would be great.   

If I recall correctly, this story was also part of the discussion.

http://www.news24.com/World/News/Grandmother-kills-baby-over-zodiac-sign-20110412
Don't rely on the unknown to help you.  Use your common sense and judge for yourself. :)

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Re: A post by Manty - 口德
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2014, 12:08:06 PM »
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What's the difference between success and mastery?
A success is when you achieve doing something once while mastery is when you know you can achieve it again and again and again.
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  • Re: A post by Manty - 口德
    « Reply #3 on: August 16, 2014, 12:26:00 PM »
    I did save it but not the whole topic, and here's all I have on it:

    Lack of Koude (口德) by @Manty:

    As I said, it is a skill that one must develop and the way I learned it was by listening to my teachers break bad news to their client.  After that, my teachers will question me how would I deal with the same topic one and a thousand times.
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    Quote from: SS on Today at 09:02:08 AM
    Just like how should the medium in that article tell the guy that maybe the wife is not that beneficial for him.


    The thing is that, say, if a given person you are dating has an energy that may be a shar to you, avoidance is not the way to go.  This is a shallow way of dealing with the problem.

    That person is there for you to learn an important lesson in this life at that moment in time.  That lesson may not be about the other person (it may, perhaps it is something about oneself.

    Remember that I often say, how many times do we own up to the fact that mistakes maybe due to one's own carelessness or shallowness?  Maybe there is something in me that acts as a trigger to that shar that in turn, hurts me.

    If I simply leave that person, I have not changed that in me that triggers it and I may once again encounter the same situation.  So that person has come to one's life for my own learning and developement.Let me give you an example I always use to illustrate how important koude is in delivering any reading.
    ______________________________________

    Once I saw that a certain young man would be a great biologist.  I will spear the 4P details of how to read that because it is not the matter at hand.

    Had I lacked koude I could have said to that budding biologist:

    "You will have a shitty career because you will spend a great deal of your time studying the reproductive patterns of parasites and bacteria in horse manure".

    When I hear people say to others, "leave that person because he or she is noxious to your health or your destiny or your fame", it always reminds me of metaphysical manure in which festers 4P parasites.

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    Re: A post by Manty - 口德
    « Reply #4 on: August 16, 2014, 02:55:54 PM »
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    Its exactly 50% strength. Without water luck cycles he will be monk. Born in the hour of prosperity will reset the chart.

    Guess u have to brush up your knowledge instead.

    This is an example of questionable tact, 口德, bordering on the very fine line.

    In any chart analysis, it is better to avoid sensational literal claims, imagine the poor parent/relative will be spooked by such a comment.

    What happen if the '50% strength type' is wrong or non existent, the parent would have worry in vain over the comment for a while over the monk claims.
    « Last Edit: August 16, 2014, 02:57:46 PM by zwdsflying@yahoo.com »

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    Re: A post by Manty - 口德
    « Reply #5 on: August 16, 2014, 07:39:40 PM »
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    What's the difference between success and mastery?
    A success is when you achieve doing something once while mastery is when you know you can achieve it again and again and again.
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  • Re: A post by Manty - 口德
    « Reply #6 on: August 16, 2014, 08:18:19 PM »
    Under the Blind School approach (note the words Blind School, not Mangpai here), if you were destined/fated to be able to run into us, and ask the question that pertains to your existing/forthcoming difficulty. We would answer you in detail without holding back, and how to avoid it. In situations where it is unavoidable, we advise you on the approach that everyone and everything is good/forgivable/right thing and to take this "high path".

    Unfortunately, not all people who are advised in this fashion do as they are told. Often they come back begging for help (especially the ones who haven't reached the unavoidable part and didn't listen). They are often given a small telling off and then to take the "high path".

    Under no circumstances are any Blind School members ever trained or told to tell something that is not based or grounded in actual events (so never will you hear that someone is born to harm or hurt you because in theory of whatever system was being used suggests to be otherwise, such as their star/animal sign, etc) from a Blind School user. If there is actual harm being done from one person to another from the systems we use to see, we are always advised to verbally warn in a non-confrontational but direct manner but to never get involved. As most of these members are actually physically blind, it would be foolish to get involved in something you can't do much about.

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    Re: A post by Manty - 口德
    « Reply #7 on: August 16, 2014, 11:21:32 PM »
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    What's the difference between success and mastery?
    A success is when you achieve doing something once while mastery is when you know you can achieve it again and again and again.
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    « Reply #8 on: August 16, 2014, 11:48:17 PM »
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    Re: A post by Manty - 口德
    « Reply #9 on: August 21, 2014, 08:01:45 PM »
    More people should read this. 
    Don't rely on the unknown to help you.  Use your common sense and judge for yourself. :)

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    Re: A post by Manty - 口德
    « Reply #10 on: August 27, 2014, 09:06:48 PM »
    Very nice passage.

    I feel that every job will need Kou De, because there will be times when you meet a difficult client or need to tell clients bad things.

    What I like to do is to present the facts plainly and simply. Then I explain how I arrived at it. Then I start to work out how the client is taking it. Sometimes good news to you may be bad news to the client. Be careful of that.

    Be firm, professional and polite, and most people will be ok with you

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  • Fortune-teller’s predictions caused him death
    « Reply #11 on: August 28, 2014, 07:11:57 PM »


    25 Aug 2014: A street fortune-teller in Sichuan province, China, was stabbed to death in broad daylight as he plied his trade this Monday morning. The suspect, surnamed Peng, a 41-year-old man, was arrested.

    According to those in the know, the 48-year-old fortune-teller, Mr Pang, was likely killed for making an all-too-accurate prediction. Previously he had accurately predicted deaths of his customers and customers' spouse leaving. However, police are yet to publicly issue a motive for the killing.

    After the incident happened, a lunar calendar (used for fortune-telling) had been left at the crime scene.

    Often scorned for being conman and hated when they're right on for misfortune predicted, the job of the fortune-teller is not an easy one. Many querents will also attribute the fortune or misfortune predicted to the fortune-teller. No matter how accurate his predictions were, however, it's doubtful he could have seen this one coming.



    >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    *Tips for all budding fortune-tellers:
    - Do not be too conclusive on the outcome as there may be karmic lessons for the querent and 8 other things that will make a difference in a destiny.
    - Instead of giving too much details, give generic advice or suggestions or hints.
    - Do not be too negative, do give some positive encouragement and hope to the querent.
    - That's why I only do readings for closed friends and family.
    - Personally, I don't predict possible death years for anyone as it is freaky (had a close experience once) and even people born with the same birth chart do not get married and die in the same years. I just live each day as it is.

    « Last Edit: January 29, 2018, 05:16:34 PM by ArtofFugue »
    By people sharing knowledge/info publicly, the info itself does not devalue to become "common internet data which lacks credibility and needs verifying". If everyone thinks in this way, nobody would want to share anymore in order to protect the value and integrity of their knowledge.

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  • Re: Fortune-teller’s predictions caused him death
    « Reply #12 on: August 28, 2014, 07:17:45 PM »
    Thank you for the translation, this should be related to Manty's post on Kou de
    Journey to my Roots.

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    Re: A post by Manty - 口德
    « Reply #13 on: August 28, 2014, 08:38:06 PM »
    I can think of many personal cases (not privi to share) where relatives went for pseudo FT consultation.   I'll give two good ones.   Grandfather went to consult with a FT about grandchild's birthday.  FT sees clash and boldly said, oh your grandchild clash with older generation, like parents and grandparents.  This grandchild was never loved by grandfather.  When I check the bday, the grandparent element is auspicious.  Pity.  The other one, girl goes to see FT consultant.  FT definitively says, hubby has a cheating chart.  He's cheating on you.  Girl goes crazy and everyday ask the husband, are you cheating?  Even if the reading has merit, CM reading is about potential for something to happen.  It's not definitive.  So now, the FT's words cause premature stress on a currently healthy relationship and perpetuated the marriage demise.  Another pity. 


    Don't rely on the unknown to help you.  Use your common sense and judge for yourself. :)

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  • Re: A post by Manty - 口德
    « Reply #14 on: August 28, 2014, 09:34:57 PM »
    Happened to find this related article dated 4 years ago:


    Woman gets death penalty in fortune-teller killing
    Published April 23, 2010

    California (AP) — A woman was sentenced to death on Friday for murdering a fortune-teller and her daughter after the soothsayer told her to get over a lost lover.

    Tanya Nelson, 45, was sentenced for the murder of fortuneteller Ha "Jade" Smith, 52, and Anita Vo, 23, in 2005, prosecutors said.

    Nelson hired fortune-teller Smith, known as Miss Ha in Orange County's Vietnamese community, to get her ex-lover back. But when Smith told her to accept reality, she became upset and plotted to drive across the country to kill her, prosecutors said.

    Smith and her daughter were stabbed as many as 10 times and their faces and hands were covered in white paint, which may have been an attempt to cover up evidence, prosecutors said.
    By people sharing knowledge/info publicly, the info itself does not devalue to become "common internet data which lacks credibility and needs verifying". If everyone thinks in this way, nobody would want to share anymore in order to protect the value and integrity of their knowledge.

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